M.i.t notable alumni7/5/2023 If we insist that everyone who is added already have an article here we are just reifying ourselves, and using circular reasoning. I oppose this altogether, but at very most it should be a suggestion, not even a guideline, let alone a policy. Rick Block ( talk) 17:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply Here is a compromise wording: "A person should be included as a "notable alumna or alumnus" only if that person is already the subject of a wikipedia article or if an article about that person would undoubtedly meet wikipedia's guidelines for notability." GabrielF 19:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC) Reply I don't think there's any particular reason to necessarily list everyone who has an article as a "notable alumnus". ![]() I'd even make existence of an article a minimum criteria, i.e. John Broughton | Talk 16:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply I'm not sure it's actually necessary (since it's come up, perhaps it is), but I'd support such a stronger rule. And if the policy isn't changed and a non-wikilinked person's name is deleted, with the policy cited, the next action is likely to be someone putting the name back with a redlink, then possibly making things up when the redlink is removed - in short, way too much time being spent on a single line in an article. If the policy isn't strengthened, then I'd vote against having it at all, because, as noted above, there are likely to be a lot of discussions about whether a person is notable even if he/she doesn't have an article YET. In other words, redlinks would not be allowed, nor would non-wikilinked names. I think that if the policy were strengthened, it would be clearly useful, because it isn't covered anywhere else: A listing of notable alumni for a school 'cannot include anyone who does not already have a wikipedia article about that person. (moved from the pump) > R a d iantVegaswikian 06:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply Being an alumni is not a reason to have an article, in most cases anyway. If your goal is to define who should be listed as notable alumni, we already have that covered. We already have several guidelines that determine the notability of people for having their own article. Perel 06:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply You don't need a guideline for notable alumni. it would be good to have it clarified front and center. The nutshell version, however, should definitely be policy SOMEWHERE. Wetman 06:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply I'm not sure that this should be its own guideline - we have too many separate and overlapping guidelines already. Guidelines never substitute for missing common sense: instead they get rigorously enforced by people from authoritarian cultural backgrounds. Redlinks among lists of "Notable anybody" should be deleted anyway: half the time it's a prankster's buddy. > R a d iant R a d iant< 12:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC) Reply We already have guidelines for people ( WP:BIO, mostly) and anybody on whom we do not have an article is likely not a notable alumnus, and should not be listed in the school article. Thesmothete 05:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC) Reply He pursued Political Science with a specialization in International Relations and in English literature.Please comment on this proposed policy guideline. He started his higher education in Political Science in the year 1979 at Occidental College and later transferred to Columbia University. ![]() Barack Obama is one of the iconic Columbia university’s notable alumni. He introduced reforms for saving the environment, climate change, and encouraged women entrepreneurship. From introducing new financial laws to improving relations with countries around the world, Obama worked very hard to make his nation proud across the globe. Barack Obama – First African- American President of the USAīarack Obama created history by becoming the first African American president of the USA.
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